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Karl Loren
Username: Kloren

Post Number: 10
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is a single factor that has not been present in the conflict in the mIddle East.

We hear of "talks" between the Israelis and the Palestinians but there is something vital missing.

A "government" as its first characteristic must be able to control its population and borders.

The Palestinans complain that the Israelis are "terrorists" because they "invade" the Palestinian area and shoot guns, kill people.

They do.

But Israel can stop these actions on a minute's notice. The armed forces there respond to orders from their leaders.

Israel has a government that does control the actions of Israelis.

The Palestinians claim to BE a country, but they cannot or do not control the criminals in their own area.

These criminals act with impunity and have the full capability of "SENDING" homicide bombers into Israel to kill people.

There can never be "negotiations" or "talks" between a figurehead who has no power, and a real power.

Also, as long as any one country, particularly in the close area, announces that "Israel has no right to even exist" -- that area is not safe and there will be no peace.

Any country which announces as its "national policy" that some other country has no legitimacy, and no right to exist -- such a nation is creating chaos and there will be no peace until that country is shown to be powerless or made to stop such threats.

The road map must include that the Palestinian leaders demonstrate their power to control the terrorists in their midst.

The Israelis have long-demonstrated that they do control the delivery of violence into Palestine.

It is this lack of control that marks the terrorist.

Bin Laden is a terrorist because there is no authority, no nation, yet, which can control him.

There are many terrorists acting on the planet, and so far no nation shows any ability to control them.

They are outlaws and should be rooted out as vermine in the world society.
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Username: Babu

Post Number: 10
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with Mr. Karl Loren completely.

The case is similar with regard to India & Pakistan.

Pakistan manufactured terrorists to trouble India in the name of Jihad in Kashmir. Now it wants peace with India without accepting the responsibility for stopping its terrorists from crossing over to India for Jihad. Till Pakistan gets a government that can really govern that country, peace is not possible with India.

A sensible and responsible government in Pakistan appears remote -- as it has develoed a long culture of beiing ruled only by military dictatorship.
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