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Time and further reports will tell the tale! Police, certainly more than ordinary citizens, are quite capable of putting the label of "evil" or "criminal" on such behavior as the bombers, but that is the easy part.

How willing is "society" to put the squeeze on those who supported and encouraged these bombers?

We are dealing here with behavior that is easily labeled evil and criminal, but we soon bump into "civil rights" and "human rights" of those supposedly innocent family members, for instance, who saw these tendencies brewing and did nothing.

A "moral person" does not associate with the evil or criminal. You have a DUTY to either change those around you who are immoral, or disconnect and deny them any support from you. This is not a matter of legality, but morality. The bombers were criminals, their families were immoral. We do not put the immoral in prison, but we can cast them out of a moral society to "live elsewhere."

We feel certain that various Mullahs have exorted their faithful to take up the bomb and gun to kill the infidels. It is clear, from the US Supreme Court, that yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theater, when there is no fire, is not speech protected by the First Amendment. Should Mullah preaching hatred be tolerated? Maybe not prison, but not, either, in my back yard.

It is up to each person, individually, to take a stand for morality and ensure that none of their own behavior supports those who are, in any way, immoral.

How long will we have the two different tendencies in America, in society, to reward those who are poor with a pass on their evil behavior?? Those Saudis or others who send checks to the families of the fallen are not fit to travel in a moral society. Do we shun them, or sleep with them in hopes of favor -- to find only the road to Hell.

The Wall Street Journal coverage of this same story, perhaps "carefully," declined to be very specific about the bombers being of Pakistani origin -- the people in India have very strong feelings about the evil nature of Pakistan -- are the UK police trying to be polite to a bomber? Or, are the Indians trying to pin everything on the Pakistanis? I think the Indians probably have it more correctly. Europe, generally, has allowed a free flow of very unpleasant characters to immigrate -- in fact without this immigration much of Europe would have a declining population -- as the "old" die out they are being replaced with young, hungry, often radical people with no great investment in the economic system they have come to live within. Perhaps this is why the "old" feel guilty? Want to appease these who expect only welfare?

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In a sensational breakthrough into the investigation in the London bombings, the police said at least three of the bombers are believed to be British males of Pakistani origin who lived in West Yorkshire in Leeds.

Police said they believe four men including the three Pakistani origin persons who arrived at King's Cross last Thursday morning on a train from Leeds were behind the terrorist bomb attack that killed at least 52 people and injured 700 on three tube trains and one bus.

Detectives are still unsure about the identity of the fourth bomber.

CCTV footage at King's Cross station showed the four suspected bombers together at 8.30 am, Deputy assistant commissioner Peter Clarke, the head of the Metropolitan police's anti-terrorism branch, told a press conference here on Tuesday night.

The three tube blasts -- at Aldgate, King's Cross and Edgware Road -- came within a minute of each other at 8.51 am.

The bus bomb detonated 57 minutes later as the No 30 passed through Tavistock Square in Bloomsbury, central London.

The bus bomber is believed to be dead, and police said there was "strong forensic and other evidence" a second bomber died at Aldgate. Investigators are now trying to establish if the other two are alive or died in the explosions.

A relative of one of the suspects was arrested in West Yorkshire on Tuesday and was being brought to London to be quizzed by the anti-terrorist branch.

Suggestions that the bus was targeted by a suicide bomber were initially denied by police, but witnesses claimed an "agitated" passenger was seen rummaging in his bag.

Clarke said police were now trying to establish the movements of the four men in the week before the bomb attacks.

"We are trying to establish their movements in the run-up to last week's attack and specifically to establish whether they all died in the explosions," he said.
Six search warrants were served on Tuesday under the Terrorism Act on houses in and around Leeds, during the operation.

"These included the home addresses of three of the four men," he said. "A detailed forensic examination will now follow and this is likely to take time to complete."

The investigation has already established that personal documents bearing the names of three of the four men were found close to three of the explosions.

Property in the name of the suspected bus bomber -- reported missing by his family on the morning of July 7 -- was found on the No 30.

Property of a second man was found at Aldgate, and property belonging to a third was found both at Aldgate and at Edgware Road.

In another development, police have found explosives inside a car left outside Luton railway station in Bedfordshire.

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TERROR IN LONDON

July 13, 2005

 

British Police
Report Break
In Bombing Probe

One Arrested, Homes Raided as Authorities
Investigate Possibility of Suicide Attacks

By MARC CHAMPION and JEANNE WHALEN in London, CARRICK MOLLENKAMP in Leeds, England, and PHILIP SHISHKIN in Brussels
Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
July 13, 2005; Page A1

British police arrested one person and raided six homes in connection with last week's London terrorist attacks, and authorities are investigating whether four men suspected of involvement died in the bombings in what could mark the first suicide-bomb attack on a major Western city.

Police said forensic evidence suggested it was "very likely" that at least one bomber died in the attacks on three subways and a bus, which killed at least 52 people. The police also said they had film, captured by one of the city's many closed-circuit security cameras, of four men suspected of carrying out the attacks gathered at King's Cross station in central London about 20 minutes before the three subway bombs were detonated at 8:51 a.m. last Thursday. The bus bomb exploded about one hour later. The identities and nationalities of the suspected bombers weren't released.

The developments marked a major breakthrough in a case that, until now, had been marked by an apparent lack of evidence and concern that the bombers were at large and could strike again. The possibility that the bombers killed themselves in the attacks also could represent an escalation of terrorist tactics in the West with a type of strike more typically associated with insurgencies in the Middle East and Iraq. In the Madrid terrorist attack last year, which killed 191 people, the bombers triggered their devices with mobile phones. All 19 terrorists in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in the U.S. died after hijacking commercial airliners.

Even as the British investigation broke new ground, the United Kingdom and other governments in the European Union said they would push for tougher measures to help prevent future terrorist attacks. British Prime Minister Tony Blair said Monday he might bring forward new counterterrorist legislation planned for next spring, as it became clear what new powers British police need. Yesterday, EU finance ministers agreed to speed up measures to block funding for terrorist groups. Britain's interior minister, Charles Clarke, called a meeting of his EU counterparts in Brussels today to discuss additional joint efforts.

The British investigation into London's attacks yesterday zeroed in on northern England, where many former industrial cities have become home to Muslim immigrants. The suspects appear to have traveled to Luton, 30 miles north of London, by car and taken the train from there to King's Cross.

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Police said three of the four men connected to the bombings were from western Yorkshire county, about 200 miles north of London. The personal documents of three of the suspected bombers were found close to the bombs at three of the four explosion sites, said Peter Clarke, deputy assistant commissioner of London's Metropolitan Police. Property belonging to the fourth man, who was reported missing by his family last Thursday, the day of the attacks, was discovered on the bus.

In what he described as a fast-moving investigation, Mr. Clarke said police were now investigating "specifically whether they all died in the explosions."

Sky News reported late last night that all four men were British nationals, but a police spokesman declined to comment. Police also didn't provide any information on the person arrested, other than to say the arrest was made in west Yorkshire.

Early yesterday, British police with warrants raided six houses in the area of Leeds, a Yorkshire city of 715,000. Public records indicate that one of the residents of one of the houses raided by police was Hasib Hussain, who was named by the London Times as one of the suspected bombers along with Shehzad Tanweer. The report linking both men to the bombings could not be confirmed with West Yorkshire police last night. Residents of the Hussain home did not answer the phone last night.

Police also closed a railway station in Luton, while investigating a car they believe is tied to the London attacks. A second car was last night being examined in Leighton Buzzard, northwest of London, in connection with the attacks, Bedfordshire police said.

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Mr. Clarke of the Metropolitan police said police had taken action to neutralize materials found in the car at Luton station and at one of the Leeds area houses to ensure they posed no risk to the public. He didn't say whether these were explosives. In Leeds, the authorities blasted down the door of one home so that police could enter. About 500 people were evacuated from neighboring homes.

Leeds has a sizable Muslim population and is home to some 9,600 current asylum applicants, about a quarter of all those in the U.K., according to the local authority. Most of these are from Iran, Iraq, Pakistan and Africa. Leeds was also the scene of race riots in 2001, as were other cities in the area, including Bradford, Oldham and Burnley. Most of the rioters were Muslims, protesting aggression by white neo-fascist groups.

The neighborhoods in the Leeds area targeted by police yesterday all are gritty, low-income and full of red-brick and white stucco homes. Crime investigators dressed in white scrubs worked at the sites late yesterday afternoon. One of the locations searched is about two blocks from the Leeds Grand Mosque.

A neighbor of one of the houses raided, who asked that her name not be used, said that three generations of a south Asian family lived in the house, adding that she believed the family had lived there for 20 years and included two young men in their early and late twenties.

A neighbor of another house raided, on Stratford Street, said the neighborhood has been rocked by racial tension in recent years. A few years ago, a fight between south Asian teens and white teens resulted in the death of one young man fighting with the white group, said the neighbor, who was reached by phone and asked not to be named. Since then Asians and whites have frequently gotten into fights. The neighbor, who is Asian, said a group of white boys broke windshields on his car and other cars on the block a few months ago.

Since the 2001 terrorist attacks in the U.S., and the Madrid bombings last year, the EU has already taken numerous steps to better coordinate its fight against terrorism. But the fragmentation of its security services and legal systems together with increasingly open borders has made it easier for mobile terrorist groups to operate.

German Interior Minister Otto Schilly said in an interview he would ask his EU counterparts when they meet in Brussels today to share information on fingerprints of asylum seekers and rejected visa applications. He said he also wants Europol, the EU police clearing house, to have executive powers to conduct EU-wide investigations.

Charles Clarke, the U.K. interior minister, also has said he will ask for the EU to push through regulations requiring all phone companies and Internet service providers to keep records of traffic for at least 12 months.

Many of these proposals, however, may be tough to implement. After the Madrid bombings 16 months ago, European officials also promised to improve cross-border coordination and devolve more powers to Europol. But over a year later, progress remains slow. Europol hasn't acquired any substantial new powers on counterterrorism, despite initial calls to give the agency greater authority in initiating its own investigations.

Law enforcement remains the prerogative of national governments, so the EU as a whole can only set out broad policy contours, leaving the actual enforcement and implementation in the hands of national agencies. In addition, Europe as a whole has tighter personal data-protection laws than the U.S. does, reflecting the continent's ambivalence about encroaching on individual liberties for the sake of law enforcement.

But that balance has come into question as racial and religious tensions have increased amid fears of further terrorist strikes. In the Netherlands, a Dutch-Moroccan man confessed in court yesterday to last year's murder of filmmaker Theo van Gogh, who had been critical of Islam. The murder had fanned tensions in the country.

Italy's interior minister, Giuseppe Pisanu, yesterday set out proposals to increase the amount of time police can hold terror suspects without charges to 24 hours, from 12 hours, and to ease immigration procedures for immigrants who inform on terror networks.

--David Crawford in Berlin, Gabriel Kahn in Rome, Aaron O. Patrick in London and Glenn Simpson in Brussels contributed to this article.

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